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 Please join us for our next service on Sunday, September 5, at 10:30.  Since this is a holiday weekend we will be having a open forum discussion on the topic of Immigration. Here are some questions that may be considered during our discussion: 

1) Should being present in the U.S. without permission be considered a crime?
2) What should be done with people already here illegally?
3) Should children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants be granted automatic citizenship?
4) Some argue that illegal immigrants help to keep prices low for things such as food, hotels, restaurants, landscaping, and other products and services. Are you willing to pay more for groceries, hospitality services, etc., in order to control illegal immigration?
5) How does fear affect US citizens' view on immigration today?
6) Some have proposed mass deportations of millions of people from the US who here illegally. What would be the consequences of the mass deportations?
 

We will be meeting at Wilkes Family Central at Lincoln Heights. Directions are from the mid-town intersection in Wilkesboro. This is the intersection where Wilkesboro Blvd, Main Street and Oakwoods Rd all intersect.

Traveling east through Wilkesboro, once you go through the light and up the hill you are on East Main. Continue on for .9 of a mile from the intersection.

Turn right at the Wilkes Family Central at Lincoln Heights sign. It's a yellow, red, black and white sign on a brick structure. Go .3 of a mile, through a residential area. You will see a gate and a drive that goes straight off the road, while the road turns to the left.  Drive through the gates and down the hill. Park in the parking lower parking lot that is near the picnic tables. We meet in this building. Come in the brown doors at the end. Go about half way down the hall to the Family Room, number 107 on the left.

Coffee and socializing at 10:00 AM

Childcare will be provided.

 For a sampling of recent sermons and programs, go to Sermon Archives above.

 

:: Three practical ideals...
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 Three practical ideals for getting through the day

1. Want what you have;

2. Do what you can; and

3. Be who you are.

From Forest Church's sermon, "How to Make the Most of Hard Times", see Sermon Archives  or click here.

 

"Our Liberal Faith" 

UU Faith is not a believe whatever you choose to believe faith, rather it is a faith in which each of us is free to believe what we are each compelled to believe based upon a free and disciplined search for truth…

Excerpt taken from UU Faith Sermon by D. Doreion Colter, see Sermon Archives "Our Liberal Faith".


 

:: Service Times and Location
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Sundays  10 AM  coffee time and socializing
10:30 to 11:30   Morning Lay Led Service 
coffee and socializing also following the service


We currently do not have a permanet place to meet.  Rose Glen Village has asked us to find a new location.  Some of the residents were upset at our presence and since Rose Glen is their home, the director felt that she had to ask us to leave. 

We have some ideas that we are pursuing. If you have any suggestions, please contact Clyde Ingle at 973-7839.   We cannot afford to pay very much rent.  We need two rooms, one for the service and a smaller one for religious education for the kids (usually just 2 or 3).  We need restroom facilities. 

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Palin's Christian nation
By David Waters, Washington Post, April 22, 2010.

newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/undergod/2010/04/palins_christian_nation.html
 

In a speech last week, Sarah Palin promoted belief in God as a form of patriotism, dismissed notions that "America isn't a Christian nation," and denounced a federal judge's ruling that it's unconstitutional for government to declare a National Day of Prayer.
"God truly has shed his grace on thee -- on this country. He's blessed us, and we better not blow it. And that's why I talk about politics," Palin told the 16,000-member choir at a Women of Joy conference in Louisville, Ky., last Friday.

"Lest anyone try to convince you that God should be separated from the state, our founding fathers, they were believers," she continued. "Hearing any leader declare that America isn't a Christian nation . . . It's mind-boggling to see some of our nation's actions recently, but politics truly is a topic for another day."
 

Here at Under God, politics is a topic for any day, especially when it's mixed with religion.Palin's reference to "any leader" was a clear reference to President Obama, who in a 2006 speech said, "Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation -- at least not just -- we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of non-believers."Those comments -- especially the truncated sound bite "We are no longer a Christian nation" -- were deployed across the Web to depict presidential candidate Obama as a non-Christian or an anti-Christian.


Palin isn't the first 21st Century politician to proclaim America a Christian nation. In a 2007 interview with Beliefnet.com, presidential candidate John McCain said: "The Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation." (His campaign later clarified the remark.)
Of course, the U.S. Constitution expressly did not establish America as any sort of religious nation.
 

As Newsweek editor and On Faith co-moderator Jon Meacham (author of "American Gospel") and others have repeatedly pointed out, the Constitution expressly did not establish the U.S. as a Christian nation. A treaty the U.S. signed in the 1790s declared that "the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." Andrew Jackson resisted bids in the 1820s to form a "Christian party in politics." Abraham Lincoln buried a proposed "Christian amendment" to the Constitution to declare the nation's fealty to Jesus.
And so on. And yet the notion persists.
 

According to a Newsweek Poll last year, 62 percent of Americans consider the U.S. a Christian nation (down from 71 percent in 2005).
Brent Baker, vice president for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center, says the media is making too much of Palin's comments. "(She) never said anything about an 'official' religion, so (she) could just mean that as a practical matter the nation is Christian since it was founded on Christian principles espoused (by) the majority of the Founding Fathers, that nearly all current elected officials pay homage to Christianity no matter their level of faith, and that the vast majority of Americans who are religious adhere to a Christian faith."
 

Maybe we're focusing on the wrong question. If a majority of Americans believe this is a Christian nation, maybe the more relevant question -- and a good question to begin the 2012 presidential debates -- for Palin or Obama or any other politician is this:
What do you mean when you say that America is (or is not) a Christian nation?
 

Do you mean that a majority of Americans claim to be Christians? Do you mean that America is a Christian nation in the way that Iran is an Islamic nation? Do you mean that the primary purpose of America is evangelical, that the primary allegiance of every American is to Jesus? Or do you mean something else entirely?
 

What do you think they mean?

 

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